Another overlooked point is that the factory alignment specs suck! I have a 67 coupe that is built to handle, stop, and haul ass. The camber and caster should be the same on both sides. The settings that you should set your Mustang's suspension to are: . The ULTIMATE update! Those looking for more can tweak things to suit their needs. Probably straight from Ford with bias ply tires and 1970's vehicle "safety" in mind. Possibly a bit shipping cart like? The boxes can get SLOPPY (mine has a 1" dead spot with otherwise new suspension) Less than $200 from stangerssite.com as well. Seems simple t o move LCA Pivot Bolt flange outward . "If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it yet" -Jon. Oh, but . specs, maintenance plus more! 0 # 4209224969. . 03-04-2019 #166. The upper control arms, in conjunction with the lower control arms, have new alignment specifications built in to them. The boxes can get SLOPPY (mine has a 1" dead spot with otherwise new suspension) Less than $200 from stangerssite.com as well. They adjusted it to the specs stored in their alignment machine. Opentracker modifies Moog arms for Fords, he'd probably take on doing the same thing to Buick control arms. 0 to .5 neg camber, 1.5 to 2.5 pos caster and 1/8" toe in. Opentracker parts will look stock, but just be better, boxing helps eliminate the flex that in the stamped steel parts. Mercury Comet 1965, Alignment Camber/Caster Shim Assortment by Specialty Products. Designed and built by the MMI Team. The camber and caster should be the same on both sides. The rubber is vulcanized to the center shaft and the bore. P palerider94 Member Feb 21, 2006 572 1 19 Jun 6, 2007 #10 scrutmonkey said: Jon. I recently took my '67 in for an alignment and I left really unsatisfied. Griggs Racing GR350 suspension. The online based eSPECS is often more complete! Hotchkis Sport Suspension manufactures control arms, lowering springs, trailing arms, shocks, leaf springs, sub frame connectors, shocksand other performance suspension, handling, traction, parts for muscle cars, european cars, and imports Opentracker designs, modifies and fabricates high quality parts. . The performance alignment has more caster for better stability and Zero or some negative camber for added grip instead of the positive camber the cars came with. You will want to have a 'performance alignment' done as some folks call it. . As for the steering box, grease it up and adjust it, best $11 I ever spent! 3PL. The bearings seem to be a common off the shelf piece, because I replaced the brake rods bearings, for sealed ones from Summit Racing. Sbeck09. Here are some good specs from OpenTracker racing products. let's don't forget that a 6 gear manual helps brake longevity too. They adjusted it to the specs stored in their alignment machine. They may not like that and you'll have to find another shop. Center link is the '65 manual steering version from falconparts.com. Will definitely use Daze's alignment specs. Perhaps the most overlooked part is a professional steeringbox rebuild. Trusted by enthusiasts since 1952 for fast & reliable shipping on affordable parts with expert support. OpenTracker setup is common with slots added to the . Matched along with 6ul wheels, Nitto nt05 235/40zr17 ( Ohlins coilovers with modified alignment) to address unsprung weight and traction. CNC milled and laser cut parts are then TIG welded for strength and accuracy. On top of that, stock alignment isn't great for performance, just like opentracker suggested - poor alignment standards compound the poor stock . A 17x9 rim should go over the upper ball joint, which could run it right into the perch. I don't know his alignment specs either. It's an inventory control method in which the first items to come into the warehouse are the first items to leave. . I've got alignment shims on order, so next we add caster at the top, do a quick alignment with the car in the air, and check clearance . Take alignment specifications from Opentracker Racing for the shop to use. Generally, a "4-wheel alignment" refers to 4-wheel independent suspension car which usually have some adjustment (only camber usually) in the rear. Alignment needed afterwards. rbohm. Handcrafted performance suspension for modern and classic Mustang, Falcon, Fairlane, Cougar and more. '67 Coupe 289 stroked to 333, AOD, 9" w/3.50:1, PDB, Candyapple red w/red deluxe int., PS, ext. Alignment Specs to give your alignment guy or gal. A simple fix for that is to use alignment shims under the front UCA bolt, which increases the available caster. You can't go wrong with OTs alignment specs. First in first out (FIFO) warehousing means exactly what it sounds like. Opentracker. Just a few well thought out pieces. Online Alignment Data! 2017+ FIAT 124 Spider General Discussion Forum Owner . I am installing some GW adjustable strut rods and will have to get my 65 w/shelby drop aligned. 66 coupe 5.0/T5, home-brewed power 4 wheel disc setup, 350hp+, looks like it belongs in 1968 WMS. . When done it removes the weakness of rubber and makes it as strong with lower arm as double wishbone. When fitting the new UCA, it will only go in a very . #1. They are a little different than the 65-66 but the bump steer issue can be handled with a performance alignment. Our roller lower arms come with or without bracing. I would imagine it being a bit squirrely with negative caster. Search. Opentracker Racing is challenging the way suspension upgrades have been done in the past by using high quality roller and spherical bearings instead of rubber, polyurethane or bronze for the pivot points in our suspension and steering components. I used a swivel bearing setup from Calvert Racing on the brake reaction rods, and a bearing spring perch. Alignment is set to the Open Tracker "Street Specs". It doesn't take a lot to get these cars to handle well and drive more like a modern car. Opentracker Racing Products. Many more mods to come! View Profile View Forum Posts View . 2. unfortunately, just because . Home; New Products; Innovations; Customer Cars; Tech Information; Contact; FAQ; View Cart; Search for: Home / SHOP BY YEAR AND MAKE / 1960-1970 FALCON 1960-1970 FALCON. Box 252 Carmel Valley, CA 93924 Customer Support . I would prefer a shop somewhere between Hayward and Richmond, but I am open to any suggestions. SN Certified Technician. This spring perch, found on some early Falcons, utilizes a bronze bushing and grease fitting. 0 to .5 neg camber, 1.5 to 2.5 pos caster and 1/8" toe in. In a straight line you can take your hands of the wheel and it'll continue straight. I'll try to find my alignment specs from the last time I had mine on a rack with a pull down setup. Opentracker has some nice . 1/16" to 1/8" toe in. I'm looking for a recommendation on a really good alignment shop in the Bay Area. We can get most anything you . beerbelly, Jun 23, 2020 #31. Along with getting the proper bumpsteer settings, it sounds like you need a proper alignment. #1. a vehicle can easily be 1/16" toed in when not moving but actually be toed out at highway speeds, but for some odd reason, very few "experts" mention this simply because they are not really experts . Full Forum Listing. It will lower you front end about 1.5" and it will handle like its on rails! They HAVE been proven to flex quite a bit under load, so I imagine everything you can do to keep the alignment constant is a good thing. . The new lower control arms have an adjustable mount at the strut rod location. '09 Black Warriors In Pink with glass roof - the wifes Mustang. Adjustable LCA camber setups for popular '"65 Mustang" apps' fit 60-65 Falcon/Comets as well. He has two . Mar 30, 2017. The use of a bump steer kit will help even more but they are not needed on the street most of the time. The Opentracker kits will make a very nice installation but you probably need above average fabrication skills. Posts: 4511 From: Sucat, Paranaque, Philippines Registered: Jul 99: posted 04-09-2004 08:36 PM The following is a print out that I take to my alignment shop every time I have my car aligned. As the suspension moves, some of the alignment specs, such as camber, will vary through the vertical range of motion, also know as camber curve. Perhaps the most overlooked part is a professional steeringbox rebuild. The following account regarding the BSE and a performance alignment is from John Dinkel AKA Opentracker of . Jon. Possibly a bit shipping cart like? Seems simple t o move LCA Pivot Bolt flange outward . All is well now. I have not done my alignment yet but I do plan on doing it myself. People run tubular suspension for this reason but the boxing is a low cost alternative that can help keep the car looking stock. It is important to keep the camber and caster the same on both sides and don't let the alignment guy set the car for road crown. +2.0 to +3.5 degrees caster. Mustang Rear Leaf Spring Plate - One Left Side - (1964-1965) $ 25.00 Add to cart. Aug 11, 2009 . Explore Our Forums. I dont remember if it list caster or not but I was paying more attention to bump steer and camber gain under compression.not caster. 1. Do the Arning drop on the front suspension and DO NOT use the alignment specs that are in your local alignment jockeys computer. That's what we found while this was being tested on different cars with different wheels. The perch is able to pivot on the shaft. Reduced shimming is achieved for proper setting. Jun 23, 2007. These are the specs: 1. decor group, light group, foxbody seats. It is not modern, but as good as modern with keeping alignment in place and its more robust. 1964-1972 GTO, Lemans, Tempest, T37 (A-Body) Front Suspension Components: Springs, Shocks and Coilovers John C Clarko Opentracker Racing has some street performance alignment specs on their site https://opentrackerracing.com . The alignment settings we use are: 0 - Camber 2deg. They may not like that and you'll have to find another shop. Mine were made by user "Opentracker" on the VMF. I got these setting from Opentracker (John) a while back and they are what I used on my set up. The LCA egg shaped eccentrics have been known to loosen and move changing alignment. Probably straight from Ford with bias ply tires and 1970's vehicle "safety" in mind. Similar to the service industry concept of "first come, first served", the FIFO method focuses on products, not people. All steel parts are finished with the highest quality black powder coat for ultimate long-term weather protection! These camber/caster shims are now available in a corrugated box set to . A proper alignment will do wonders for the way your car drives. even that small amount would be negligible to most people . Equipped with Edelbrock Performer intake, Quick Fuel 680HR carb, ported stock heads, 282 Magnum solid cam, Hedman longtube headers, MSD ignition, and decked and ported heads. positive caster 1/8" to-in. Warehouse Management. Additional Product Information. . With basic tools our adjustable strut rods can be installed in approx. Car drives great. . NO more than .25 degrees difference between driver's side and passenger's side. The goal here (other than make a big tire fit) is to run as much caster as feasible, while minimizing how much I need to roll and pull the fenders and maintain as much of the stock body lines as possible. Mar 30, 2017. The LCA egg shaped eccentrics have been known to loosen and move changing alignment. Radflo. 30 minutes per side. The Granada spindle has the same geometry as the 67-up cars so you wouldn't notice a change. Double Roller Spring Perches The Drag Racing teams we work with asked for a roller perch with a separate pivot for the shock to eliminate any chance of bind. The use of a bump steer kit will help even more but they are not needed on the street most of the time. Save Reply Cracker289 Go to FYIFordsMustangsteve.com and get the template to do the drop from Dazecars.com and the alignment specs. Tightening up one end of the car (higher spring rates, stiffer shocks, larger bars) moves weight to the other end of the car. 3. "If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it yet" -Jon. With Opentracker's UCA "negative wedge" modification and the right ball joints, and a little trimming of the ball joint cap, 5.25 BS is possible. Yes the wheels and tires weigh more, but the larger contact patch and shorter sidewall more than make up for the extra weight in the handling department. As long as you have the ability to adjust to the specs you require on the road or track, the type of suapension does not matter. . They are a little different than the 65-66 but the bump steer issue can be handled with a performance alignment. The colser you get to 4 degrees positive caster the stiffer the steering gets from what I have been told. Opentracker Active Member The Granada spindle has the same geometry as the 67-up cars so you wouldn't notice a change. This came from Opentracker Racing Products (Opentracker Racing Products) since I have his products under my car. ffice ffice" /><O ></O > I have ordered the Total Control Products upper arms and I am working on fabricated lower a-arms, the Ron Morris lower a-arm is very very nice but his stuff is pretty pricy. Rex66. I did a quick search and found that 2bav8 & Opentracker had posted the same specs: Caster: +1.5 to +2.5 Camber: 0 to -.5 Toe: 1/8" My question is since I have a 6 cyl. I too have the Shelby drop, an aluminum top end but with a 351 Windsor and manual steering. It spaces down the end of the tierod to get it back into alignment. 8.8 rear end. New 2022 Mazda CX-5 2.5 S Select Package Deep Crystal Blue Mica in Chicago, IL at McGrath City - Call us now (773) 546-9756 for more information about this Stock #TM2478 Adjustable LCA camber setups for popular '"65 Mustang" apps' fit 60-65 Falcon/Comets as well. You get coverage for Passenger Cars, Light Trucks, and SUVs starting in 1960 through current 2021 models. you can also buy similar ones for more money from Cobra Auto. Take alignment specifications from Opentracker Racing for the shop to use. My car is very simular to what you want, just without the paint scheme. We have a full race version with a replaceable screw in ball joint or a Howe adjustable ball joint. Opentracker Racing Products LLC P.O. Quality Parts for Muscle Car, Hot Rod, Racing & more. . '09 Black Warriors In Pink with glass roof - the wifes Mustang. By limiting suspension travel, you keep the alignment specs closest to the setting set during the initial alignment. '67 Coupe 289 stroked to 333, AOD, 9" w/3.50:1, PDB, Candyapple red w/red deluxe int., PS, ext. These specifications are in order of importance. On top of that, stock alignment isn't great for performance, just like opentracker suggested - poor alignment standards compound the poor stock . T16592 In Fourth Gear PLATINUM MEMBER. Another overlooked point is that the factory alignment specs suck! Only show this user. And according to TCP a 17" wheel won't clear the upper ball joint. I also put the negitive wedge kit on it which really helped in the car's handling. Use the Opentracker roller bearing set-up for the upper and lower a-arms, TCP adjustable strut arms, got a set of Opentracker roller spring perches not using sell for $150+ shipping, Opentracker some good stuff really frees up front end great weight transfer. I would imagine it being a bit squirrely with negative caster. You need to go back and give them the specs you want. Fastback68 Gearhead . Alignment specs are a good baseline for all years. John at Opentracker Racing is a great resource for parts and advice and tricks. For instance, I actually run -2.0 camber (and +3.0 caster) as I'm not worried about tire wear as traction is far more important to me. . The car had neg. -.5 to 0 degrees camber. You need to go back and give them the specs you want. Please align to these specs "1960-1966 Mustang and Falcon Performance Alignment with or without UCA drop". After Shelby Drop (1" down and 1/8 back), the '61's Camber is Positive with all UCA shims removed, not good alignment wise. decor group, light group, foxbody seats. check out Opentracker Racing Products . It rides like it's on rails, straight and smooth at 100 mph. caster which caused the problem. All Radflo Shocks are custom built-to-order, and uniquely valved to meet you and your vehicle's unique needs and specifications. OpenTracker provides the template here if you want it . So the . Opentracker is a great resource for parts and advice and tricks. The factory specs are no good for performance driven cars with radial tires. We call it a performance alignment. More caster improves steering feel and return to center, as well as reduces the "loose" feeling these cars are known for. That is not to say that perhaps some alignment systems could check the relationship of the front wheels to the rear wheels, I am not sure about that possibility but it seems reasonable. Apr 12, 2002 6,698 551 204 63 . A car with a stiff front suspension moves the weight to the car's rear which can cause the car to understeer, meaning the front end wants to plow on you.or in NASCAR speak; the car is tight. Then I removed the template and enlarged the holes with a step bit, and then finished with a regular 1/2" bit. Radflo 6" Front Coilovers. The colser you get to 4 degrees positive caster the stiffer the steering gets from what I have been told.